Re: MD EITHER/OR, BOTH/AND

From: Platt Holden (pholden@cbvnol.net)
Date: Wed Dec 13 2000 - 12:21:53 GMT


Hi Horse, Elephant and All:

ELEPHANT:
> > BTW, your introduction of container-contained relations is a bit left field.
> > I think the idea that "X contains Y and Y contains X" is *very odd*, and
> > something ridiculed in Lila: pp62 - 63 near the end of 4..
>
> HORSE:
> Pirsig is, I believe, using irony in the context of the passage to which you refer. I had hoped
> you would pick up on Pirsigs idea of intellectual patterns contained by biological patterns
> and intellectual patterns containing biological patterns - can't remember where it appears in
> the book (does anyone else? - Platt, Rog).

I believe the passage you refer to is from Chap. 12 of "Lila:"

"So what the Metaphysics of Quality concludes is that all schools
are right on the mind-matter question. Mind is contained in static
inorganic patterns. Matter is contained in static intellectual
patterns. Both mind and matter are completely separate
evolutionary levels of static patterns of value, and as such are
capable of each containing the other without contradiction."

Platt

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