Re: MD EITHER/OR, BOTH/AND

From: PzEph (etinarcardia@lineone.net)
Date: Thu Dec 14 2000 - 00:12:46 GMT


Thanks for digging out the quote Platt... I'm going to need some help
though......

PLATT WROTE:
>Hi Horse, Elephant and All:
>
> ELEPHANT:
>>> BTW, your introduction of container-contained relations is a bit left field.
>>> I think the idea that "X contains Y and Y contains X" is *very odd*, and
>>> something ridiculed in Lila: pp62 - 63 near the end of 4..
>>
>> HORSE:
>> Pirsig is, I believe, using irony in the context of the passage to which you
>> refer. I had hoped
>> you would pick up on Pirsigs idea of intellectual patterns contained by
>> biological patterns
>> and intellectual patterns containing biological patterns - can't remember
>> where it appears in
>> the book (does anyone else? - Platt, Rog).
>
PLATT WROTE:
> I believe the passage you refer to is from Chap. 12 of "Lila:"
>
> "So what the Metaphysics of Quality concludes is that all schools
> are right on the mind-matter question. Mind is contained in static
> inorganic patterns. Matter is contained in static intellectual
> patterns. Both mind and matter are completely separate
> evolutionary levels of static patterns of value, and as such are
> capable of each containing the other without contradiction."
>

ELEPHANT:
I guess the point is that only completely separate evolutionary levels can
do this? You've lopped off the comment I was originally replying to, and I
can't for the moment remember what it was... I need to know whether I was
talking about separate levels or not. Horse will tell me?

Pzeph

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