Hi Puzz
On 31 Dec 2000, at 23:18, PzEph wrote:
Puzzled Pachyderm:
> I feel suitable chastened by your comments, as I am not wholly confident
> that I have met proper standards.
Horse:
For the most part I've had no problem with your comments and your posts in general have
been enjoyable and educational - although sometimes bordering on aggressive w.r.t. Chris
L. But this is a good example of what I mean. Even though you were coming on mildly
aggressively (much more so than anything you wrote at Struan) at no time did Chris respond
as Struan would have done (and in fact did) but remained reasonable and continued the
discourse in a rational manner - it was also very interesting which meant that I and probably
lots of others didn't just switch off think that just another ill-mannered rant was forthcoming.
Puzzled Pachyderm:
> I think the only point I would make would be that it is perhaps a little
> unfair to have identified a particular individual as you have done.
Horse:
Perhaps if it had been a one-off but that is not the case and, as I said in my post, I expect
better of Struan considering that he is both a teacher and a philosopher by profession. In fact
at times in the past I have thought that his behaviour has bordered on intellectual bullying.
Puzzled Pachyderm:
> But let us hope that your stance leads us from vicous circles and towards
> virtuous ones, and that it does so without loss of vigour or participants.
> This remains possible.
Horse:
I hope so. Sometimes tempers do fray, this is understandable and in general is ignored but
when it starts to become the norm we are all at risk of losing a worthwhile and precious
resource - a sense of community and the pleasure it can bring.
Puzzled Pachyderm:
> I have every sympathy with all that David Prince is driving at, but perhaps
> better quality discussion may emerge as an aftershock of this quake, which
> may therefore have served a purpose.
Horse:
I don't want to damage the dynamic element of this forum but I think in the long run it is
aggression and confrontation that that cause most damage. I have just read 3WD's reply to
Struan which is great - "robust disagreement" between two parties is one thing but I feel that
Struan has overstepped the mark on several occasions and it is only the respect I have had
for him in the past that held me back from saying anything. He's not under any obligation to
join in the discussion on the MD forum (and like Dave I sometimes wonder why he does,
given his general opinion of Pisig and the MoQ) but if he does then he should abide by the
rules as do the vast majority of members - there aren't that many, they aren't draconian and
where members stretch them at times it's generally ignored.
Horse
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