Re: MD Church of Reason

From: Simon K (sdk24@hermes.cam.ac.uk)
Date: Thu Jan 11 2001 - 12:28:29 GMT


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From: Richard Ridge <richard_ridge@tao-group.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: 10 January 2001 09:43
Subject: RE: MD Church of Reason

>
>
> > "If the being of man is really at one with the being of God,
>
> Is really? That's not the christian perspective, as I understand it - the
> fall and so on.
>
No, I don't see it as the Christian perspective either, Christianity teaches
a way to be at one with the being of God.

For the being of God can only be the universe in its entirety in the sense
that God is omnipresent and contains everything, and he can be no more than
the universe, for the universe as we define it in whatever scientific or
theological or metaphysical sense is the sum total of everything in
existence and non-existence.

On the other hand, the 'religious' view that the universe follows reason and
logic professes that it is something that can be understood by humans as we
possess the capacities for reason a priori (?). If we didn't then reason is
just something we would have to be taught, implying that it is a human
construct. And as reason is something that is forced down our throats...

On yet another hand, buddhism teachess that the way to zen is by not using
the mind at all, and that way, the natural way which is destroyed by the
intellectualization process, can we be at one with the being of the
universe.

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