Er,
> From: "Jonathan B. Marder" <jonathan.marder@newmail.net>
> 2. The absoluteness (or not) of Truth is a non-issue in the MoQ. A few words
> from Elephant and Rick
> make it clear why we cannot regard Truth as an ontology:
>
>> ELEPHANT (to Rick):
>> Interesting that you say that "Nobody is arguing that self-contradictions
>> can be true (a strawman if I've ever read one).". . .
>
> Of course! self-contradictions and other logical fallacies are not TRUE, but
> they *are* REAL (otherwise we wouldn't be able to discuss them).
1. no idea what you mean by "truth as an ontology"
2. noo idea what I am "making clear" to you in this passage, since I wasn't
making any point what so ever, but just an introductory sentence to point
out that Rick had misunderstood me as misunderstanding him, ie 'interesting'
as in 'mighty strange..'
3. nooo idea what you mean by saying that logical fallacies are "REAL".
Are you saying that there is a square-circle?????
Actually whether in general things have to exist in order to be discussed is
an interesting question, to which the answer is:
'no'.
Hope that clears things up. BTW there are of course some classes of being
that have to exist in order for any discussion to be possible, that is in
order for 'square' and 'circle' to mean anything. But it just so happens
that the square-circle isn't one of them. Mainly because it ain't square,
and it ain't circular.
Squares and circles exist, indeed THE square and THE circle exist. That's
why we can get our heads around 'the square circle' just far enough to see
that it's twaddle. This applies to contradictions generally: the elements
can be made sense of but the conjuntions are bizarre and unintelligable.
They don't describe anything that exists, and they don't have to describe
anything that exists in order for us to know that they don't describe
anything that exists.
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