Everything I say is a lie.
....
ppl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Jorgensen" <mjorgensen@vpdinc.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: 15 February 2001 23:14
Subject: RE: MD criticisms of DQ
> Elephant - Thank you, I beleive I now understand. In order for the rule
> "Every rule has an exception" to be true, there couldn't be a rule with no
> exception. But the only way for this rule to be true is to have a rule,
> namely itself, which had no exception. Therefore the statement that
"Every
> rule has an exception" must be a false statement.
> thank you for your indulgence,
> mj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
> [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of elephant
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:53 AM
> To: moq_discuss@moq.org
> Subject: Re: MD criticisms of DQ
>
>
> OK MARTY THIS IS THE LAST:
>
> MARTY WROTE:
> > Elephant,
> > I have been trying to resist, but I must risk exposing my ignorance and
> jump
> > in. I understand how a statement like "All rules are false" doesn't
work
> > because "all rules are false" is itself a rule and thereby by
definition,
> > false. But "Every rule has an exception" is different. Here's how I am
> > seeing this:
> > "All rules have an exception" is a rule, and therefore by definition,
must
> > have at least one exception. Therefore there has to be at least one
rule
> with
> > no exception. The rule with no exception is "All rules have
exceptions."
> How
> > is this illogical?
>
> ELEPHANT:
> ...because if that rule has no exceptions, then, the rule in question
being
> the rule that all rules have exceptions, it follows that it has
exceptions.
> Having exceptions and not having exceptions at the same time it is a
> contradiction. QED.
>
> tt FOR EVER (on this one)
>
> e
>
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