Hello everyone
>From: "Jonathan B. Marder" <jonathan.marder@newmail.net>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>Subject: Re: MD The right to bear arms
>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:53:24 +0300
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>
>Hi Dan and all,
>
>I suggest that "police force" is an appropriate modern translation of the
>term
>"well regulated Militia" that appears in the Second Amendment.
Hi Jonathan
If so then mustn't we ask ourselves why a private citizen in the US has the
right to bear arms?
>
>
>DAN
> > Section 8 of the US Constitution
>(http://www.usconstitution.com/read.htm)
> > provides for a police force as well as a militia. Amendment II as part
>of
> > the Bill of Rights seems geared more towards the individual, in my
>opinion
> > (and in the opinion of at least one judge in Florida too. :))
> >
>Thanks again for the reference. I looked at it, and see that Section 8 is
>about CONGRESSIONAL rights.
>The clause gives Congress the right to raise taxes and use them for a whole
>number of purposes; the militia is just one. Someone will have to correct
>me
>if I am wrong, but I assume while the FBI and Federal Police come under
>Congressional authority, State Police and County Police do not, so they
>fall
>outside the scope of Section 8. It seems that they are authorised under
>Amendment II which is more general.
You might be right. There is definitely language and cultural differences
between the world of 200 years ago and today. Rather than getting involved
in a Constitutional debate, the fact remains that I as an individual can go
down to the gun store right now and purchase a firearm, with no need of me
belonging to a well regulated militia (be it an army, a police force,
whatever). So, does Amendment II pertain to only a collective people and
their service in a well regulated militia? or does it pertain to individuals
and their right to form well regulated militias? This is a very important
point and it is my opinion that history has shown time and again that
Amendment II is more about the individual's rights. Amendment II is designed
to be a Dynamic right and according to the MOQ only individuals can respond
to Dynamic Quality, a society cannot.
Thank you for giving me much to think about.
Dan
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