Re: MD 5th level revisited

From: Barritt Road Runner (MBARRITT@nc.rr.com)
Date: Mon Sep 10 2001 - 23:42:13 BST


Squonk,

Interesting thought - Software as a fifth level, though not in the computer
sense, at least not strictly/literally. This leads me to wonder how this
"Software" would then exploit Intellect. Curious thought...

Barritt

----- Original Message -----
From: <SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: MD 5th level revisited

> Hi Bo and all!
>
> This is primarily for Bo, but please join in everyone?
>
> I should like to say a few words about, 'Computers taking control.'
> I sincerely feel you are missing my point Bo? May i attempt to clarify?
>
> I do not feel computers, of themselves will take control of anything.
> I am suggesting that, enhanced modes of experience will provide a new
avenue
> for Quality to utilise. In this sense, the computer is analogous to a high
> quality hammer; the engineer may beat panel with a hammer, and in doing so
> create good art.
> As with the enhanced human experience, it is the computer software
evolving
> in an evolutionary relationship with human experience that generates fifth
> level - fifth level will, in this sense not be divorced from humans.
> Fifth level will be static fifth level patterns composed of a relationship
> between human experience and it's own enhancement with software.
> I am not an advocate of AI suddenly jumping at our throats with a
vengeance!
> The relationship between AI and us will be a mediation of DQ, and it will
be
> valued by humans while shielding fifth level evolution.
>
> As for the MOQ being a fifth level step?
> Well, Quality has been pointed to throughout human history, and Pirsig's
> pointer - the MOQ - is not new in this context. What is new, is the
> development of science, and the MOQ does address this, making the MOQ
> original and of extreme importance?
> You know this and yet suggest the MOQ itself is fifth level? I find this a
> little odd!
> I feel sure the fault must be due to my own misunderstanding.
>
> I don't know what more i can say right now in order to make myself more
clear?
> One thing i am confident about and it is this:
> If you could experience your culture 50 years from now, you would almost
> certainly find it impossible to integrate yourself, or be integrated.
>
>
> All the best,
> Squonk. :-)
>
>
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