RE: MD Re: Nietzsche

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Sep 26 2001 - 14:40:38 BST


Hi Rob, Tanya and All:

Rob, when you wrote this you hit the nail on the head:

> Who truly believes that "God is Dead" though? Only Nietzsche it would
> seem, for God is very much alive in the minds of even the most intellectual
> people of this world. SOM is a pattern that has no good or evil, no morality
> within it, yet morality persists. Nietzsche saw the death of the social
> level God, a God which gave the social level it's authority and morals,
> replaced by the intellectual level, a level with no authority greater than
> the many minds that believe in it. He predicted the death of the social
> level, but although weakened, it still survives. What he failed to see was
> the Metaphysics of Quality, and how the social level fits into the big
> picture. God has changed though, the subject-object definition of it has put
> it in a box where it doesn't belong. Have you ever wondered what the saying
> "God is good" really means? The words are so so close that they could have
> the same root. Could it not be a definition? Quality. If quality is a
> genuine part of reality one would have to be totally blind not to see it in
> the levels other than as "truth", it's intellectual interpretation. That's
> why it persists, because it exists. So Nietzsche was both wrong and right,
> because although the intellectual level doesn't require a God, definer of
> morals, it never really did die when the intellectual level took over.
> And "God has been resurrected by MOQ" anyway.

I agree 100 per cent. Several years ago on this site I wrote 13 Basic Principles
of the MOQ, and the first one was:

1. The Quality Principle: Quality is simultaneously an immanent and
transcendent moral force. It created and gave purpose to our world,
motivated by the ethical principle of the "Good" which is its essence.
Quality is synonymous with "morality" and "value." Thus, the world is
primarily a moral order, consisting not of subjects (mental things) and
objects (material things) but patterns of value.

The basis for this beginning principle was Pirsig's discussion of
Dharma in Chapter 30 that concludes with:

"Dharma is Quality itself, the principle of 'rightness' which gives
structure and purpose to the evolution of all life and to the evolving
understanding of the universe which life has created."

Yes, God as been resurrected by the new intellectual pattern called the
MOQ and is now known in MOQ terms as the "Good." It sure beats
SOM's "it was just an accident" answer to philosophy's toughest
question, "Why there is something rather than nothing?"

Platt

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