My inkling is that "quality" is just another "last
bastion" of importance and significance of life. My
general feeling is that the human mind can make
meaning and goodness out of even the most horrific
events. The fact that it can make goodness of tragedy
may be a mark of goodness, a mark of quality. But I'm
not convinced that the pliability of the brain is a
proof that "quality" is the thing. It just seems that
the human brain is remarkably good at making good out
of bad. Does that mean the world is "quality?" It just
means the mind is adaptable to make whatever meaning
it wants, and that by and large it always tries to
make good out of bad. So, if you define quality as the
bent of the mind to make good out of bad, I buy it.
But if you define quality as something external to the
mind, I don't see it. It's a trap of sorts. It's clear
there is a bent towards goodness, but is that just an
interpretation of the mind? Again, if quality is
defined as the mind's bent towards goodness, it makes
sense. But I don't see a clear path to defining an
objective quality in the world when there is so much
evidence against that. Crashing the towers? What
quality is in that? None, unless you begin the process
of interpreting with the brain, and as I said the
brain can tune even Judas into good.
Angus.
--- Platt Holden <pholden@sc.rr.com> wrote:
> Hi Rob, Tanya and All:
>
> Rob, when you wrote this you hit the nail on the
> head:
>
> > Who truly believes that "God is Dead" though?
> Only Nietzsche it would
> > seem, for God is very much alive in the minds of
> even the most intellectual
> > people of this world. SOM is a pattern that has no
> good or evil, no morality
> > within it, yet morality persists. Nietzsche saw
> the death of the social
> > level God, a God which gave the social level it's
> authority and morals,
> > replaced by the intellectual level, a level with
> no authority greater than
> > the many minds that believe in it. He predicted
> the death of the social
> > level, but although weakened, it still survives.
> What he failed to see was
> > the Metaphysics of Quality, and how the social
> level fits into the big
> > picture. God has changed though, the
> subject-object definition of it has put
> > it in a box where it doesn't belong. Have you ever
> wondered what the saying
> > "God is good" really means? The words are so so
> close that they could have
> > the same root. Could it not be a definition?
> Quality. If quality is a
> > genuine part of reality one would have to be
> totally blind not to see it in
> > the levels other than as "truth", it's
> intellectual interpretation. That's
> > why it persists, because it exists. So Nietzsche
> was both wrong and right,
> > because although the intellectual level doesn't
> require a God, definer of
> > morals, it never really did die when the
> intellectual level took over.
> > And "God has been resurrected by MOQ" anyway.
>
> I agree 100 per cent. Several years ago on this site
> I wrote 13 Basic Principles
> of the MOQ, and the first one was:
>
> 1. The Quality Principle: Quality is simultaneously
> an immanent and
> transcendent moral force. It created and gave
> purpose to our world,
> motivated by the ethical principle of the "Good"
> which is its essence.
> Quality is synonymous with "morality" and "value."
> Thus, the world is
> primarily a moral order, consisting not of subjects
> (mental things) and
> objects (material things) but patterns of value.
>
> The basis for this beginning principle was Pirsig's
> discussion of
> Dharma in Chapter 30 that concludes with:
>
> "Dharma is Quality itself, the principle of
> 'rightness' which gives
> structure and purpose to the evolution of all life
> and to the evolving
> understanding of the universe which life has
> created."
>
> Yes, God as been resurrected by the new intellectual
> pattern called the
> MOQ and is now known in MOQ terms as the "Good." It
> sure beats
> SOM's "it was just an accident" answer to
> philosophy's toughest
> question, "Why there is something rather than
> nothing?"
>
> Platt
>
>
>
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