Hi Tanya
You said:
> I can see what Angus says.
> Seems it's all in the mind - and on 'love' it's all bio-physiology.
> - surely we could have 'levels' here too ??
Sorry to act the growler of this site, but we can't start at square
one with each new participant. You respect that hopefully?
Have you read LILA for instance? The Quality Metaphysics rejects
the Subject/Object Metaphysics and its primary off-shoot is the
mind/matter duality, so starting with "mind-levels" leads back to
the SOM quagmire.
> Seems that's what Nietzsche is getting at. Pirsig too. And Fromm even
> after he wanders through lots of 'hard wired' sex/love experience
> along the nature of Angus's summary, pleas for us to question what it
> is that overrides it. I dunno - doesn't look like a blind alley to me.
There have been many "...exactly what NN says" messages, but
nowhere do I find any exact similarity. Many say that the
mind/matter-dualism is an illusion etc, but with no alternative they
are soon up to their neck in it. It can only be avoided by Pirsig's
MoQ.
> I could say: I think 'intellect' is a glass ceiling. (and the 'trap')
> But perhaps it is a singular pursuit, since it will only ever be the
> intellect we correspond with here at our keyboards.
I'm not sure how you see the intellectual LEVEL of the MoQ. If it is
"mind" of SOM you are mistaken. Also we operate at ALL levels
simultaneously, but focus chiefly on the intellectual one. Yet even
at the keyboard we get mad and try to sway opinion ..and what's
worse ;-). and such at the social level. The biological and inorganic
are self-evident.
> and maybe, like those before me - that's as far as I can take it!
> Although I see a little 'crack'! - a glimmer! - perhaps we could talk
> about the 'symptoms' of what would be beyond bio-physiology.
> ... anyhow ... I'm thinking on it...
Keep on thinking ....no sarcasm.
> Yippie! - Here comes Oisín!!
> >(in
> >that sense, "bent towards goodness" could be valid as a phenomemon of
> > Quality, but not "of mind")
I was also pleased with Oisin's message, but notice him stressing
...but not "of mind". That may indicate a true insight.
> In the mean time, I send you all my love,
Thanks and many returns ..sincerely.
Bo
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