Re: MD MOQ, Wittgenstein and the philosophy of love

From: Elizaphanian (Elizaphanian@btinternet.com)
Date: Wed Oct 10 2001 - 22:03:29 BST


Angus - I would have studied it, but the link doesn't seem to work. Could
you repost?

Ta
Sam

----- Original Message -----
From: "Angus Guschwan" <arshilegorky@yahoo.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: MD MOQ, Wittgenstein and the philosophy of love

> For historical placing as is my bent, Wittgenstein
> loved James' "Varieties of Religious Experience" and
> Pirsig mentions the same title in his defense in LILA
> of ZAMM. It's clear that Pirsig wrote ZAMM without
> direct James influence other than cultural
> assimilation. Pirsig, James, and Wittgenstein are
> brothers of a charm for sure. Pirsig even defines how
> he is different from James when he says "he combines
> radical empiricism with pragmatism."
>
> I would call a distinction though. There are 2
> Wittgenstein's: early and late. Later Wittgenstein
> renounces his earlier work. I've been feeling that
> Pirsig sounds like early Wittgenstein though of late
> and this email post shows that he might be a
> Wittgenstein synthesist. I'm a synthesist, as my web
> site www.appliedwittgenstein.com might attest. Might
> Pirsig also combine Wittgenstein as he did with James?
> I'd be interested in thoughts on that. Early
> Wittgenstein was the formalist, and later Wittgenstein
> was the "common sensist." You do need a formal system
> (the levels) to straighten things out (wittgenstein's
> formalism), but then there are certain things (morals)
> that are more based on faith in the mysticism of life
> forms (wittgenstein's later work). In a nutshell, that
> would be Pirsig maybe, and that would be early and
> late Wittgenstein.
>
> Angus
>
>
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