In a message dated 11/29/01 2:36:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
arshilegorky@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Rob,
>
> > The MOQ is not about quality being a "true" thing.
> > The MOQ is about truth being a "quality" thing.
> Yes, this is a quality observation. I propose the
> people on this list should start to talk in MOQ
> instead of SOM. On this list we hear a lot of "this is
> right, this is wrong" but in reality the MOQ way of
> talking would be "this is more quality because" etc.
>
> I propose an MOQ grammar. To start this proposal,
> there is first 2 ways of talking "statically":
> statically and dynamically. To talk statically a mark
> of [sq] should be used. To talk dynamically, a mark of
> [DQ] should be used. We could work like HTML and use
> [/sq] to end it. Really though we would just need
> [DQ]and [/DQ] to talk about something "dynamic",
> something "shown". We can assume it is static
> otherwise. Here's an example: [DQ] lay down in the dew
> of the grass on a morning [/DQ].
>
> As for morals, there are 5 levels, so for some things
> there could be 5 quality statements. As you said,
> "might makes right" might be moral for the
> "inorganic/biology" level. People should "frame" the
> question when they talk about morals so we know what
> level it is on. We could just use a roman numeral: I
> II III IV V. You can change the syntax to what you
> want but it seems it would help with a lot of
> confusion on this list. We need to talk in MOQ. Maybe
> we can come up with an MOQ language. An example: [III]
> Might makes right [\III] That way you are understood
> in the MOQ that you are talking "biology/inorganic"
> codes.
>
> Finally, what about "intra-level" ethics? Pirsig is
> clear on ethics between levels: the higher level has
> to control the lower level. But what about question
> within a level? This is where Pirsig uses the term
> "force." There is an organizing "force" for each level
> it seems. "Sex" is the organizing force for biology.
> "Celebrity" is the organizing force for social. I
> don't know the other forces for the other levels.
> Maybe someone can help here.
>
>
> Angus
>
That's some smart shit Angus. I look foward to reading more...
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