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From: <RISKYBIZ9@aol.com>
| You then went on to some very
interesting suggestions that the best
tools are
| often tools to make different tools,
etc.
What I meant was MoQ is the tool to
"smelt" more tools. That MoQ is the
lamp to use to shine into the darkness
and finally be able to "see" (create
static latching of DQ). I may be the
only one reading this (I don't know) to
not just think RMP's mention of the Tao
te Ching is just something "nice" or
"interesting" but to be the actual
truth. It makes me seem like a
flaked-out mystic to think when Carlos
Castaņeda talks about shifting
perspective into the "unknown" that it
can become "known" is the SAME as MoQ
just not nearly as well
statically-latched, but I think it's
valid. See below:
| The point I was trying to make was
that it would be jim-dandy if we had a
way
| of capturing these conclusions and the
key arguments supporting and/or
| disagreeing with them. This way, we
could latch onto the knowledge and
| experience of past discussions, and go
beyond them rather than repeating them.
|
| To be honest though, I can't find what
your objection is with the
| aforementioned statement. Please feel
free to peruse the archives, giving
| special attention to arguments between
the lion and the lamb, or between two
| warring nations. The MOQ imo does not
offer a suggested morality within a
| level. (And if anyone disagrees with
this, that is fine, but if so they are
| just reinforcing my suggestion that we
need a way to summarize past
| discussions better if we hope to avoid
MOQ entropy)
My "objection" is I don't find the MoQ
to be some high-faluting property of
insult-slinging academically qualified
and certified people (sorry but all that
backbiting I've been reading leaves a
decidedly sour taste to the uninvolved
reader). I find it to be incredibly
useful in real-life real-world
situations. As real as "real" can get.
In the case of the arguments of "between
the lion and the lamb" I will certainly
admit that a lot of debate on the
subject can lead to some decidedly
stalemate conclusions. I just think
there is a HUGE abyss between
theoretical conclusions of established
moral imperatives and practical life. I
don't know if MoQ can solve world wars
but when I wake up in the morning to go
to work the MoQ helps me pick out what
clothes to wear. What makes MoQ a true
"gem" to me and indespensible tool (for
crafting OTHER tools) as opposed to say,
the daily horoscope in the Macon
Telegraph, is that the the MoQ is an
indestructible tool one can used to
explore the unknown. I for one do not
find the Tao de Ching just to be a "nice
book" with some nice poetical bullshit
about how life is yin and yang, I find
it to be incredibly practical and useful
on an immediate and tactile basis. The
MoQ is just taking the slippery yolk of
the Tao (or what Don Juan was always
trying to teach Carlos with all that
tomfoolery about "fighting witches" etc)
and putting a few handles on it so you
can grab onto it a little more easily.
Let me summarize a little better if I
may. The MoQ gives you a framework to
finally understand and incorporate (or
static latch to use RMPology) such
statements as Tom Cruise uttered in the
movie "Risky Business" when he said
"Sometimes you gotta say what the
fuck?". The MoQ is what explains why
that sentiment and attitude in the movie
Risky Business not only was APPEALING
but why it also SUCCEEDED in the movie.
That movie was filmed based on a
screenplay someone wrote and was
therefore scripted, but "Risky Business"
can and does occur in REAL LIFE (or
unscripted life) every second of your
life. You are in the airport and either
your plane is on time or it isn't on
time. Or you run into someone you knew
10 years before and you talk and you say
fuck the plane and six months later
you're engaged to be married to her.
The MoQ shows you how to corral the
Joker in the deck of cards, how to
understand it the way people who are
successful in business are successful (I
don't think Warren Buffet would need all
the high-faluting academics to
understand the MoQ because he already
senses it).
I think this email list focuses too much
on the Metaphysics and too little on the
Quality. That's my two cents worth and
I wouldn't even chip in the pennies if I
hadn't read ZAMM and Lila 10 years ago
and made it the focus of my life to see
if it panned out in "real life" with
people both professorial and illiterate
in every country I could get my hands
in.
I appreciate your time and I am wrong
too, a LOT of the time, and I wouldn't
change that for the world (for fear of
becoming literally statically latched to
death).
--Soj
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