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ERIN
I think trying to accumulate good karma is pretty analogous to your worrying
whether the intentions or motivations are good or not. Here is an interesting
quote from Phil Simmons "learning to fall" about good karma
"my friend Cathy the Sanksrit scholar tells me that's (accumulating good karma
to cancel bad karma out) is mainly an American interpretation.. Yes, its
better to accumulate good karma than bad but ideally, she tells me our actions
generate no karma at all. Karma only accumulates only when our actions issue
from some ego or the work some I."
This quote reminded me of Lila. It seems that he had a character who had a
motivation stemming from each level. Lila -biological Roger- social Pirsig-
intellectual. The motivations seem to have a widening of interest from
Lila's "I" to Roger's "We" particular social group to Pirsigs intellectual
level of all of humankind.
So to me if you want to make sure an intention is good- one point to start off
is to see if it is good for all of humankind (vs your particular social group
to even own self).
I think this intellectual level is important because you have to know your
motivations to attempt to control them. In Lila I seem to feel that Pirsig
wavers between this intellectual level and the next level of acting from no
karma at all (complete freedom). I think this is a good approach. I think if
you want to reach the no karma level you should be mastering the intellectual
level and that is what our "intentions" should be.
"know thyself" can be interpreted as "know thy motivations"
>>BARD
>I tried to be careful not to use the terms "good intentions" or "bad
>intentions" in order to avoid the trivialization of such concepts as is
>evident in such phrases as "the road to Hell is paved with..." However one
>might replace intent with motivation. Even in the Western Judeo-Christian
>faith, to be without covetousness is a tenet. In some sects, it represents
>two separate tenets. Isn't covetousness an intent?
>> BARD:
>> It seems that it is the intention that precedes an action that determines
>> whether the outcome is of Quality.
>>
>> ROGER
>> Good intentions and bad results is indeed high quality intent and low
>quality
>> result. Bad intentions and accidental good results is indeed low quality
>> intent and high quality outcome. Good intent and good results is very
>moral
>> indeed. High quality acroos the greatest span and depth!
>>
>>
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