Re: MD Quality and information theory

From: Magnus Berg (McMagnus@home.se)
Date: Thu Jan 03 2002 - 11:49:22 GMT


Hi Graham

> GRAHAM:
>
> Is the information contained in DNA an *intellectual* value pattern? Or would it be more correct to say that it is a biological
> value pattern? If that is the case, is it not possible that quantum information is an inorganic value pattern? Doesn't this imply
> that information exists on all rungs of the ladder? Isn't that what Pirsig is saying?

Good and relevant questions. I guess that Pirsig, i.e. the MoQ, seems to say that information exists on all rungs of the ladder.
However, I wouldn't say that information really exists anywhere but in the intellectual level. If we see information, it *is*
intellectual patterns. The information is on the other hand supported by patterns of lower levels, from this comes the illusion
that information would actually exist elsewhere.

Returning to your explicit questions:

> Is the information contained in DNA an *intellectual* value pattern?

I think it would be more correct to say that it is biological value. However, if we assign meaning to the patterns in a DNA
string, we would add information to them, hence intellectual patterns. The physical appearance of a thing does not change
when we add intellectual patterns like this. But it does enable us to *read* the information of the DNA. This is what the
DNA researchers are doing trying to catalogue the human chromosomes.

> Is it not possible that quantum information is an inorganic value pattern?

I'm not really sure what you're trying to ask here, the term 'quantum information' is a contradiction in terms in the MoQ.
If you are asking whether it's possible to reverse the dependency I'd say no. A lower level pattern is not necessarily a
higher level pattern, but a higher level pattern is by necessity also all lower level patterns.

        Magnus

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