Hi Magnus,
MAGNUS:
However, I wouldn't say that information really exists anywhere but in the intellectual level. If we see information, it *is*
intellectual patterns. The information is on the other hand supported by patterns of lower levels, from this comes the illusion that
information would actually exist elsewhere.
GRAHAM:
This seems to come right back to the question of defining what the term "information" means, which is how I got into this thread in
the first place.
You seem to be saying that it is only information if it exists in the human mind. DNA has been doing its thing for millions of
years, but the patterns it contains only became information about 50 years ago when we started to discover how to unravel it.
Or, probably closer to my understanding of the term, you are saying that it is only information if we assign meaning to it. The
question is then: is meaning a uniquely intellectual property? Could it not be said that biology demonstrates that it finds meaning
in the DNA patterns by decoding them as it does?
MAGNUS:
I'm not really sure what you're trying to ask here, the term 'quantum information' is a contradiction in terms in the MOQ.
If you are asking whether it's possible to reverse the dependency I'd say no. A lower level pattern is not necessarily a
higher level pattern, but a higher level pattern is by necessity also all lower level patterns.
GRAHAM:
I am not really sure what I mean either, so I suppose that I should say that I will get back to you when I have had a chance to
think about it. But this could take months, so to take a stab at it I suppose that what I mean is that patterns of value at the
quantum level are the basis for inorganic quality. The inorganic world in built from them, and that the fact that they contain
meaning is demonstrated by the fact that they decode into the physical world we see around us.
Of course, it all depends on what you mean by meaning, I suppose.
Graham
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