MD Ken Wilber

From: Angus Guschwan (arshilegorky@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Jan 03 2002 - 23:15:39 GMT


Hi John,

Thanks for the reply. I dusted off my copy of No
Boundary by Ken Wilber per your reply. He makes a lot
of sense: the self has many "levels" and treatment for
the self should involve focussing on the right level.
While his acknowledgment that "one" treatment DOES NOT
work is great and agreeable, his tendency to "wrap"
things up smells of "logocentrism." "Levels" by the
word alone brings along a "structure" that I
inherently disagree with. There is an implication of
one higher or lower or one level different from the
other. But why can't they be a mess, an intermingly
interpenetration of those "levels?" I'm a
deconstructionist, so that is what I mean when I
wanted to "cure" you. Western thought is plagued with
this tendency for "origins" for "ends" for "purpose"
for "structure" and I just think we need to get out of
that, or at the least be 'aware' of it. To "cure" you
is to make you aware I think.

So I don't like Wilber as much because he puts a
structure on something that can't be structured: the
self. That's why I like Pirsig: he doesn't structure
his self, he just reveals it. I stand by my assertion
of Pirsig's sexual preoccupation: he was being honest
with his self in the book (if he wasn't I suppose it
undermines my interpretation). I guess that is my
"theory": he does not talk about the self because he
reveals, he shows the self in the story in the form of
Phaedrus. That's why I think Pirsig might be one ahead
of Wilber: Pirsig "shows" where one can not "say."
Wilber "says" where he should be "showing."

This is where I think Lila "might" be brilliant: at
the same time that he explains something he is
revealing the same point simultaneously. He "explains"
DQ/sq split, and he "shows" the DQ/sq split in his
self at the same time in his story. Lila is NOT
marginal: she's the title slut. I don't think he was
totally successful doing it (I find the story boring)
BUT I applaud the effort to make it. The best
reference to something like that is Derrida's Glas or
that movie TimeCode. I think movies like Laurence of
Arabia do this, and I suppose art is superior than
philosophy in that regard (because it accesses the
show), unless you start doing philosophy like Pirsig.

Angus

PS: From Shakespeare: "For O For O the hobby horse is
forgot." If deconstructed it means, "for logic for
logic the illusion of it all is forgot."

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