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To all
I was wondering if you could help me figure this out. I think there is a
difference between concept time and actual timing. Rats are sensitive to time
as seen in their responses to fixed and variable interval schedules of
reinforcement but I don't know anyone who would grant a time concept to rats.
Also has anybody ever seen the movie Infinity (movie about Richard Feynman).
There is a part where his future wife sees him running up and down steps
saying "one hippopatamus, two hippopatamus, etc" and when she asks what he
was doing he answers that when he counts like that it always comes out to be
the same time and he was trying to raise his heartbeat to see if it changed
it. The wife said oh yeah that seconds and he said no it's not I timed it.
So there may be a subjective aspect of time but there may also be an objective
aspect (mechanism?) that keeps time, no?
Erin
Pirsig states that...
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>"It's important to keep all 'concepts' out of Dynamic Quality. Concepts are
>always static. Once they get into Dynamic Quality they'll overrun it and try
>to present it as some kind of a concept itself. (For instance) I think it's
>better to say that time is a static intellectual concept that is one of the
>very first to emerge from Dynamic Quality. That keeps Dynamic Quality
>concept-free."
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>"Time is only a problem for the SOM people because if time has none of the
>properties of an object then it must be subjective. And if time is
>subjective that means Newton's laws of acceleration and many other laws of
>physics are subjective. Nobody in the scientific world wants to allow that."
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>There you go, right from the man himself.
>hope that helps,
>rick
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