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Hi Davor,
I am not really sure about this mechanism thing either I just wanted to
explain what I meant. When I hear about these rat studies with reinforcement
schedules the rats behavior indicate they are sensitive to time. They "show"
their time keeping skills by their responding strongly when they are scheduled
to be reinforced. So our conscious experience of time is subjective but I am
confused at the rat experience of time, whether it is also subjective or not.
I thought possibly that there is a mechanism in our brain that keeps time-
whatever screws up our circadian rhythmns would be screwing this mechanism up.
Your response about the hippopatumus was funny. It is just the name of an
animal and is really irrelavant, it was just part of this movie. Let me
explain more clearly. The movie Infinity is about the physicist R. Feynman.
Feynman is a Nobel Prize winner in physics for creating diagrams that predict
the way sub-atomic particles interact. Infinity concerns Feynman's childhood
and early adult years, focusing on his work on the Manhattan Project.
I thought this rhythmn thing was interesting because perhaps it was a
mechanism in our brain but perhaps it was something else like our heartbeat.
So this part of this movie Feynman was amazed that when he counted "one
hippopatumus, two hippopatamus" (the word is irrelavant here just a way to
keep count rather than one, two ,three, etc) it always came out the same
amount of time. So he tried to increase his heart rate by running up and down
stairs while counting to see if it messed up his timing. It didn't so it is
not the heart rate that is keeping timing but I am just confused if it is not
a mechanism than what it is. If it is related to our circadian rhythmsn I
remember hearing on the news how light affect them. So for someone whose
biological clock has them as a night person and they wanted to wake up early
by light exposure (even to wierd areas like back of knee) they can alter this
"clock" I am just trying to figure what the heck is this "clock" and if it
is "objective" or not. This "clock" would be related to things like jet lag
where it has to be "reset"
I am not really clear on this topic so I just may be rambling. Sorry if I
confused you even more. I think the mechanism has something to with light
exposure and rhythmns and perhaps some counting type thing and I am really
talking out of my element so I will just stop and let someone more informed in
this area explain it.
Make sense,
Erin
>There is indeed a subjective aspect of time Erin, the objective aspect I
>don't know, when you say mechanism I tend to think; NO, I haven't figured it
>out completely why. To the subjective aspect though I wholeheartedly say ;
>YES.
>You also wrote something about this guy from ''one hippopotamus, two
>hippopotamus'' I don't know what you mean by that, and I can be completely
>lost(I don't know what hippotamus is) here but the Hippocampus a part of the
>brain that is vital for rembering autobiographical details seems to be
>important in our perception of time. Maybe there is a way of ''stimulating''
>this hippocampus which changes the perception of time?
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