RE: MD Metaphysics of quality time

From: enoonan (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Thu Jan 24 2002 - 23:52:24 GMT


>===== Original Message From moq_discuss@moq.org =====
>Hi Davor,

I was with you up until a point then I got a little lost so maybe you could
help me...

>This is because it is not very predictable, the most conveniend way to
>measure change, is by measuring the most secure and steady changes like
>tide, the movement of the earth,

I GOT IT.

. So, for your rat experiment, people
>are rats that are reinforced by a steady schedule, the ''force'' of time is
>great and this force not only reinforces like with the rats, it is re-re
>inforced by habit(get it?),

I GET IT.

the movement of the earth and the changes that
>come with that(not to mention the clock). The fact that time relates to
>these secure changes is in my opinion not the most important reason of
>people go wrong(I could be wrong obviously) in calling time itself objective
>and secure.

 I AM COMPLETELY WITH YOU ON THAT

Our habits are; time in it's traditional conception is one of
>the most static patterns that exists, all dynamic patterns are slowly taken
>over by habit and become static to make space for new dynamic events. I'm
>reading this beautiul book now from Montaigne, he says about habit;
>''because the habit is indeed a forcing and treacherous teacher. Without
>noticing step by step it founds whitin ourselves the basis of it's mastery,
>but when, after this soft and humble start, helped by time(davor:not a
>coincedence) it is established it shows it's despotic and furious face, to
>which we do not have the freedom anymore to even see it. Time after time we
>see her violating the rules of nature. Usus efficacissimus rerum omnium
>magister'' Does this make sense?

I REALLY LOVE YOUR IDEA OF HABITS. RIGHT NOW I AM WORKING ON THIS RESEARCH
THAT INVOLVES WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF AN EVENT OCCURRING
AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. EXPECTATIONS AFFECT PERCEPTION JUST LIKE THE HABITS
YOU ARE DESCRIBING, COMPLETELY RELATED. BUT WHERE I AM A LITTLE UNCLEAR IS I
AM NOT SURE IF YOU ARE SAYING WE THINK TIME IS CONSISTENT BECAUSE WE EXPECT
(OUR HABIT) IT TO BE OR BECAUSE IT IS SO CONSISTENT THAT ANY VIOLATIONS ARE
MINOR AND OVERRIDDEN BY EXPECTATION (OR HABIT), WHAT THEY DESCRIBE IN
CONFIRMATION BIAS PHENOMENON.
THIS IS WHERE I AM A LITTLE LOST....

INTERESTING STUFF THANKS,
ERIN
  

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