Hey Erin,
> >ERIN:
> I just wanted to add one more thing. Bowlby never claimed that attachment
=
> love but I think this contact comfort went further than you are making it
> sound. It is not just that the towl was a cushy place for the monkey's
bum.
> It was a security thing.
RICK:
I don't know... Describing love in the terms of biological attachment
sounds, to me, alot like describing chemistry professors in terms of their
atoms (see LILA p.181). Sure, there's nothing 'per se incorrect' about
using the language of one level to describe a pattern of another... I'm just
not sure seeing romantic love as some adult version of biological attachment
is all that valuable.... Show me why I'm wrong....
ERIN:
> When Gary Zukav talks about the good kind of love he talks about it being
the
> opposite of fear. I liked that a lot. I think romantic love and love for
mummy
> are really fear-based (at least partly). This kind of love fades when
the
> "fear" is gone. Although many of "love" relationships are about security
and
> stem from fear there is a higher love (I don't think of myself as a
> cold-hearted cynic) but I think it is very different from the attachment
love
> you see commonly described as love it, don't you
> >think?
RICK:
I don't know much about Gary Zukav so I can't comment intelligently
about his theories... although I was under the impression that 'courage' was
the opposite of 'fear'.... Love/hate seem like a more natural pair of
antonyms than love/fear... don't you think? I too believe in a 'higher
love' than 'biological attachment'... And in the MOQ, it is 'society' that
is higher than biology... So I think we agree that there are (at least)
biological and sociological phenomena that can accurately be described as
'love...???
And I don't think you're a cold-hearted cynic, that was, of course,
rhetorical hyperbole. The funniest thing about this forum... everyone who
knows me in 'real life' tends to think of me as a hard core-cynic and a
conservative; Yet here, just in the last few days, I've already been called
a 'romantic' and 'politically correct' (Personally, I think of myself as a
centrist). What a strange view of each other we get through this net....
rick
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