Hey Bo,
> RICK said:
> > Love is NOT an emotion? I guarantee you're gonna have a tough time
> > selling that one.
> BO:
> Er ...naturally I meant love to be THE emotion while pain and
> adrenalin are sensations. Hope that makes sense :-).
RICK:
My mistake... I misread you. And I think we agree on everything....
My comments to Adam were meant to suggest than many of things commonly
associated with the term 'emotion' or 'emotional' don't always fit neatly
into any one level. Or, to use your break down... Adrenalin (sensation)
often flows in the wake of anger (emotion). Pain (sensation?) follows on
the heels of grief (emotion). And Love (emotion) can often give rise to
adrenalin (sensation), anger (emotion), pain (sensation), grief (emotion), a
whole lot more... My point is that while these 'expressions' often come
'bundled together' in the same experiences, they are not all 'expressions'
of the same level. And I think that's perfectly consistent with your
theory.
I absolutely appreciate the value in referring to the Social
manifestations of these phenomena as 'emotion' and the Biological as
'sensation'.... which is why I had brought it up in the first place. But
surely you would admit that this is a specialized, and not common use of the
term 'emotion'..?
BO:
But (my eternal buts) as [I] said to Rick Budd, when one starts at the
"what goes where" one soon runs into problems. [That's why] I try to distil
this expression essence... ...there are many patterns, so many that I find
it exhausting to list them all.
RICK:
The problem with 'specific' lists is that they are always incomplete... the
problem with 'general' principles is that they require interpretation when
applied to specific cases. The best answer (of course) is that we need
both. A broad principle like your 'expression theory' is elegant no doubt,
but these sorts of generalities are most often difficult to understand
without specific examples of how the principle applies (what in the legal
profession we'd call 'precedent'). Sometimes our principles make sense of
the examples.... Sometimes examples can show us that we need to adjust our
principles (ie. the platypus).
Do we agree?
rick
ps
In the ZMM-afterward Pirsig references a Swedish word that he translates a
'culture-bearer'. I know you're from somewhere right around those parts
(much closer than me anyway) and I was wondering if you might have any
additional insight into how a native speaker might explain the term....?
Thanks.
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