Hi Rick,
You can ignore that "one last thing" email. I accidently sent it to you
instead of him but I am having trouble with my email right now, I think
something is wrong with my school's server. Nothing is coming in. I got your
message by going to MOQ site and Boeree may have responded but I can't tell
because nothing is coming through to me right now.
RICK
There could be alot of reasons why.... Perhaps LILA simply didn't get the
recognition he had hoped for, so like a parent comforting his child he tells
his daughter (LILA) don't worry, your brother (ZMM) may be more popular, but
you're the smart one. Who knows...
ERIN: Honesty not patronizing seems more of Pirsig's style. Sounds like a
little like jealousy, going back to the Bart and Lisa example again but this
time let's think of ZAMM as Bart....
RICK
You pegged me, I think ZMM is the superior work. As you know, I'm
unconvinced that that 'moral compass' of LILA has any real value for moral
philosophy (for reasons explored in the MOQ as a moral guide thread as well
as other reasons).
ERIN: Well I will go try and read that because I am not so sure Bart, umm I
mean Rick
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ERIN
> undifferentiated aesthetic matrix compared to undifferentiated aesthetic
continuum
O.K. let me try to give you a rough idea it's not competely clear in my mind
yet so I maybe be missing something that you could fill in for me. The end of
Lila really reminds me Jung's theory that deals with acausal relationships,
sycnronicity and things like that. I won't go into detail why.
If concept learning is hierarchical and (north-south thing) and reasoning
deals with linear relationships and causality (east-west). For these two to be
together I get a picture of a matrix rather than a continuum. People who work
with neural networks work with matrixes don't they? Well gav proposed that
there were two moral guides.. rational and intuitive. I am thinking that one
moral guide limits itself to linear relationships and a full moral compass
needs the matrix, causal and acausal relationships.
Jung isn't really part of mainstream psychology but I think it is psychology's
loss. He kind of reminds me of Pirsig in ways too. He also had a "breakdown"
when he separated from Freud although he called it a "creative something or
other can't remember" and he gave the same impression that Pirsig did when he
said you can be better than cured. I think their early style of thinking
reflects a linear, causal type and later style incorporates acausal thinking.
But it just seems like to me bringing these two together creates a matrix,
maybe intuitive like gav said is a good word. The problem is I don't really
know exactly how a matrix operates. Everything I come across is broken into
four groups and the grid for a matrix would work really well for this.
Isn't there a difference between a undifferentiated aesthetic continuum and an
undifferentiated aesthetic matrix or am I missing something?
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