RE: MD truth and reality

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Jan 31 2002 - 16:58:33 GMT


Hi Erin:

Thanks for explaining what "is" means to you by reporting on
Bourland's proposed English Prime in which the "is" of identity is to be
abolished.

Here are three examples of how that proposal would work in practice:

English (From LILA)
There is Lila, this single private person who slept beside him now,
who was born and now lived and tossed in her dreams and will soon
enough die and then there is someone else-call her *lila*-who is
immortal , who inhabits Lila for a while and then moves on.

English Prime
Apparently there is Lila, perhaps a single private person who, in his
reality, slept beside him now and might have been born and now may
be alive and dreaming and will soon enough perhaps die and then the
possibility arises that there may be someone else-call her- lila*-who
one may consider to be immortal, who inhabits Lila for a while and
then partly at least moves on.

English (From HAMLET)
To be or not to be. That is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?

English Prime
Maybe to be or maybe not to be. That I think is possibly the question.
Whether it is potentially nobler in the mind to apparently suffer
The slings and arrows of what,. in my present mixed state, I consider
outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a supposed sea of troubles,
And by opposing, perhaps bring some closure to them, if only
temporarily?

English (From Erin-post of 29 Jan)
The reason Phaedrus used slips rather than full-sized sheets of paper
is that a card-catalog tray full of slips provides a more random access.
When information is organized in small chunks that can be accessed
and sequenced at random it becomes much more valuable than when
you have to take it in serial form. It's better.

English Prime
The reason Phaedrus used slips rather than full-sized sheets of paper
is possibly because a card-catalog tray full of slips provides more
random access. When information is put, apparently organized, in what
to most humans registers as small chunks that can be accessed and
sequenced at random, though to mathematicians there is no such
thing as randomness, it becomes much more valuable when
constrained by that methodology than when you have to take it in serial
form. It's provisionally better.

The impracticality of English Prime is illustrated in your own thoughts,
Erin, where you have frequently used "is" to express existence, identity
and certainty.

Be that as it may, I am beginning to come around to your truthbeauty
idea where science and art transcend their SOM separateness and
come together as one, perhaps in a fifth level. In the past the group has
talked about the MOQ itself being the fifth level because it unites
science and art under the rubric of Quality, or as you might put it,
Quality/scienceart.

What do you think?

Platt

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