Re: MD MOQ and solipsism

From: SQUONKSTAIL@aol.com
Date: Mon Feb 11 2002 - 15:05:02 GMT


For a thread about solipsism, there is allot of chat going on here!

In a message dated 2/11/02 1:20:29 PM GMT Standard Time,
beasley@austarnet.com.au writes:

<< Subj: Re: MD MOQ and solipsism
 Date: 2/11/02 1:20:29 PM GMT Standard Time
 From: beasley@austarnet.com.au (John Beasley)
 Sender: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
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 Hullo All,
 
 I liked Marco's first three moral principles.
 
 1. Better something than nothing.
 
 2. Better alive than dead.
 
 3. Better together than alone.

But each level coincides with the previous, so:
1. Better something than nothing.
2. Better something than nothing and to be alive than dead.
3. Better something than nothing and to be alive than dead, together than
alone.
 
 There are in my view three level 4 moral principles
 
 4(a) Better beauty than ugliness.
 
 4(b) Better understanding than ignorance.
 
 4(c) Better compassion than indifference.

Level 4 is intellectual and so these are inappropriate.
Beauty is a product of DQ and exists at al levels.
Understanding is not a prerequisite for intellectual value - we may never
understand.
Compassion is a biological/social value.

4. Better something than nothing and to be alive than dead, together than
alone and imitating.
 
 The Level 5 principle will of course transcend the 'either - or' divisions
 of all previous levels.
 
 5. Better to be.
 
 (Even this is a poor statement, since 'better' implies comparison, so this
 is only a finger pointing to the moon of enlightenment.)
 
 (There is, though, the implication that being is better than doing, while
 doing is better than having, and having is better than taking. In a crude
 sort of way.)
 
 (Another way of looking at being is that being transcends time. Immediacy is
 the ultimate moral value. In the here and now moment, there is no past and
 no future. Each moment is both a birth and a death.)
 
 (As each here and now moment is complete in itself, the polarities of all
 lower levels are transcended. Thus there is no something, no nothing, no
 death, no loneliness, no ugliness, ignorance or indifference. The word
 'bliss' is something of a misnomer, since neither is there life,
 togetherness, beauty, understanding or compassion; since all are partial. Or
 rather, being just is, without judgement.)
 
 (A level 5 metaphysics would be an absurdity.)
 
 John B
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5. Better something than nothing and to be alive than dead, together than
alone and imitating, creatively.

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