MD MOQ and solipsism

From: enoonan (enoonan@kent.edu)
Date: Tue Feb 12 2002 - 05:21:42 GMT


Hi John,

John I really enjoyed your last post. I was curious as to whether our
understanding of the intellect level was improving or whether we were just
going in circles.
"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging
their prejudices." William James

I was also unsure about trying to explore a 5th level without being clear on
the fourth yet but your words completely changed my mind. The fourth level
probably becomes clearer when you are looking down on it from the fifth level.
So the fourth level brings individuality and the fifth level will bring
integration.

JOHN "So a level 5 transformation will overcome the isolation inherent in the
three quality realms experienced at the fourth level. This will come not
through intellect, which is already exhausted, but from a new integration.
It is at this level that the subject/object divide is overcome, through
experience of unitary consciousness, not by rattling on with ideas about
unity. The MOQ is indeed just the menu that Pirsig said it was, and it
offers no nutrition, no fulfilment, only the chance to play ever more
twentieth century intellectual games."

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