In fact, he knows the absolute truth of what Pirsig thinks. Ironically
Rob
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From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of Platt Holden
Sent: February 15, 2002 3:17 PM
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Subject: Re: MD Pirsig Strikes Again
Rick:
> I'd like to put an end to Platt's nonsense once and for all...
>
> PLATT:
> Those on the side of science in this war are ably represented by
> Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate. In his latest book, "Facing Up:
> Science and Its Cultural Adversaries," Weinberg says the laws of
> physics are objectively real and "have no legitimate implications
> whatever for culture or politics or philosophy."
>
> Pirsig would agree....
>
> RICK:
> Not only would Pirsig NOT agree... but he has already done so quite
> clearly.
>
> Pirsig EXPLICITLY disavows any notions of an 'absolute truth'...
> "Unlike SOM the MOQ does not insist on a single exclusive truth (LILA
> p114)."
>
> He also EXPLICITLY states that truth is grounded in SOCIETY...
> "The intellectual level of patterns... has tended to invent a myth of
> independence from the social level for its own benefit. Science and
> reason, this myth goes, come only from the objective world, never the
> social world. The world of objects imposes itself upon the mind with no
> social mediation whatsoever. It is easy to see the historic reasons for
> this myth of independence. Science might never have survived without it.
> But a close examination shows it isn't so (LILA p179)."
>
> Got that Platt? Pirsig says the notion that science and reason are
> independent of society and only come from the objective world is a myth! A
> MYTH!!! Nobody minds if you express your own opinions, but please don't
> try to pretend they're Pirsig's thoughts... They are EXPLICITLY not.
You're absolutely right, as always.
Platt
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