3WD, Rog
Excellent my friend an elegant explanation, I have never been able to get a
foothold on this topic before, one of the reasons being it just doesn't make
sense
I cannot think of any reason why apparently chaotic systems exist, this is
because, i believe there are root patterns for most everything, the fact
that we can't see them or are not aware of them , does not mean they don't
exist. But your diagram and explanation below have enlightened me a little.
Now, something which has been concerning me for many years is this, as in
your diagram we view all the universe from one standpoint, that of being
aware of only our 3 dimensions. Our whole experience of life is limited to
this....
Imagine a piece of paper with a dot on it, you are this dot and your whole
world ( universe) consists of the piece of paper you are on, you can go this
way and that way, but that's it.. now somehow you are raised above the piece
of paper, and you see your whole universe from this new 3rd dimension,
up...astounding, suddenly it all makes sense... if we apply this to your
model, we see we need to be able to view it not only from the top, but from
the side as well, now we see how the elements relate to each other more
clearly given two viewpoints.
What I think we need to understand chaotic systems is an ability to be
lifted off of our own piece of paper!!
Impossible I suppose
Rod
on 2/25/02 7:56 PM, 3dwavedave at dlt44@ipa.net wrote:
> Rog, and any other chaotic types
>
> Rog asked,
>
>> PS -- How would you suggest we reconcile chaos/complexity theory and The MOQ?
> With your chaos question the following thoughts came to mind. Each of
> these levels consist of events. Right? So rather than think of the
> levels as a single consistent color or patterns of a single color lets
> think of them as little motes of light, stars in the sky if you will.
> All the yellow stars on the inorganic, green on the biological, etc. And
> like stars they are not steady, some appear to twinkle, some go out,
> some magically appear out of nothingness. Now we have nearly have a
> chaos model, one more addition. The regular hole typical in a washer
> goes away and there are many holes that move so that their alignment
> layer to layer varies. More like this:
>
> x xx x xx intellectual events-blue stars
> x xxx xx xx social events - red stars
> xxxxx xxxx x biological- green stars
> xx xxxx xxx xxx inorganic-yellow stars
>
> Now any attempt to evaluate patterns within this type a system becomes
> much more complicated and must I think at least involve evaluation of
> patterns not just from the edge view like this but simutaneously from
> the top view. So the possiblity of the interrelationship of patterns on
> a discrete level could be related to corresponding events on other
> levels. Thus feedback loops positive and negative, up and down the
> levels might be more readily apparent.
>
> Kind of like a 3D I Ching where the yarrow stalks never hit the ground.
>
> 3WD
>
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