Hey Erin,
ERIN
when you talk about 'family of shades' it seems it is crossing the line
of perception into cognition. Family resemblences is how a lot of concepts
are formed.
RICK
Huh? If a family resemblance is the basis on which a cognitive concept
is formed than wouldn't the resemblance have to reflect something
pre-cognitive (ie perceptive)? If the 'conceptual family resemblance'
didn't reflect something perceived than they would be arbitrary; wouldn't
they? A process of cognitive-DIFFERENTIATION would be nonsensical if the
differences didn't reflect some actual aspect of perception.
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> >RICK
> That is, I would SEE two different colors, in shades I don't RECOGNIZE.
> >The Natchez would SEE one color in two different shades he didn't
RECOGNIZE.
>
> ERIN: Okay I think this is why I don't see your point yet.
> You are not seeing two different colors. You are seeing two different
shades
> of off-white.
RICK
You're mixing up the examples. In the quote you took, I was SEEING
(perception) two colors -green and blue- in shades I couldn't NAME
(cognition). The Natchez was SEEING (perception) one color -a blue/green
hybrid- in two different shades he couldn't NAME (cognition).
ERIN
If Martha handed you the [papayawhip and lemonchiffon] napkins without
naming them, would be analogous to me handing blue and green chips to the
Natchez.
RICK
I don't think it is analogous, as I said, I believe it's spurious. When
Martha shows me the Papaya and lemon napkins, it's evident of my inability
to NAME a perceived difference; that is, to produce the socially agreed upon
referent for the difference I'm seeing. When you show the blue/green chips
to the Natchez it's evident of his inability to PERCEIVE a certain kind of
difference; it's not that he doesn't know the words 'blue' and 'green', it's
that he would believe both words refer to the same thing (that
'thing' would be the color X he sees in the middle of a prism (royXbiv).
rick
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