WIM:
1a BY WHAT METHOD SHOULD WE DEFINE THE PATH TOWARD DQ?
[Wim's answer] Choose from the available intellectual patterns of values the
one that is most Meaningful. That requires religious experience
and/or aesthetic judgement.
R:
I said "I guess so" to your prior version of this because I didn't get it
completely, but didn't notice any fundamental disagreements. Now that you
clarify I think I would draw exceptions.
I would answer the question as follows:
We should define the path toward social progress based upon direct
experience. I believe this correlates with your 'aesthetic judgement.' Past
experience and intellectual theory (such as the MOQ) can certainly guide us
in our path.
I see questionable value in muddying the discussion of social progress by
overwidening the topic to 'DQ'. We can agree that progress is undefined and
dynamic and constantly evolving, but lets be careful we don't broaden the Q
beyond our intentions.
Furthermore, I fail to see what 'religious experience' offers -- at least as
a fundamental answer to the question. I prefer 'direct experience'.
Finally, your insistence on "most Meaningful" flat out confuses me. I have
no idea what value this term adds to the discussion. It seems to obfuscate
things.
W:
You will choose the intellectual pattern of values that has the
'right' balance between stability and versatility, between the
size of its 'indisputable' core and its 'room for dispute'.
R:
I would say "we choose the path that has the right balance between stability
and versatility." This IS an intellectual POV that respects social and
biological patterns. If you study what I am saying here, I think you will
find it is quite different in meaning than what you wrote.
Risky
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