Dear David B.,
I don't blur the distinction between 3rd and 4th level (your 10/3
11:26 -0700 charge). If you read my postings more carefully (instead of
pulling your hear out), you will see that I only make a different
distinction. In my scheme of levels appears a very distinct 3rd level also.
It explains why the first humans creating myths (50.000 - 100.000 years ago)
were so advanced and successful already compared to the anthropoid apes from
which they branched off a couple of millions years earlier. Such an
explanation lacks from your scheme of levels (if I understand you rightly).
If you want to make a distinction between mythos and logos, that's alright
with me, but I doubt whether it is as fundamental as the distinction between
rocks and organisms.
I don't treat myths as bad ideas or low grade intellect. They're just more
primitive, like species without social patterns of values are more primitive
than species with social patterns of values. The dim idea (!) that 'I' can
want something and can align my wants with those of someone else plus the
dim idea (!) of moral order (someone/something powerful
wanting/creating/maintaining stability) created the first myths that were
enacted in rituals. These dim ideas were a huge dynamic improvement upon the
social level (according to my definition) in which the only conscious
distinction humans could make (if any) was that between 'us' (whose behavior
should be copied to survive as a group) and 'them' (who should be excluded
from the benefits of belonging to the group). Systems of ideas (copied by
communication) are a separate type of patterns of values from systems of
(unconsiously copied) behavior. Myths are far less separate from logical
explanations of reality than unconscious behavior is from ideas.
So yes, the entire 3rd level is unconscious according to me and every
conscious thought (except for dim 'us'/'them'-distinctions) is part of an
intellectual pattern of values (contrary to what you state 10/3
11:36 -0700).
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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