The Metaphysics of Quality Mailing List: Re: MD unemumerated ri

the end of the 'job' era is approaching and this is good (the end of 'wage slavery')

it is about 'growing up' and taking more responsibility for your life. the boss-employee relationship is qualitatively not much different from that of the teacher-student; parent-child; priest-congregation model. let's face it we know employment is better than unemployment(social integration is better than social islation), but jobs are the bane of most people's lives. this paradox will be resolved through individuals acting collectively outside of present political-economic structures.

a move to a less specialised and structured idea of what work is, is pretty good for a person's arete: responsibility and versatility are key attributes of the homeric hero but definitely not middle management.

>From: Rod

>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org

>To:

>Subject: Re: MD unemumerated rights

>Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:59:29 +0100

>Hi David, all

>What a fantastically 21st century discussion this has turned into..... how

>do you think any of this will be of practical use in a hundred years or

>so...

>consider this....

>the global population is growing, the production and manufacture of "goods"

>will become increasingly automated, the production of food needs less and

>less human input, just what jobs are all our children going to do, for

>example the growth of the tourist industry, has rocketed in recent years,

>why? is it because we all have more money and time, and we want to travel

>more, or is it the first sign that jobs are being fabricated simply to give

>people something to do, so they can feel good about themselves, contributing

>to society, and being good citizens!!

>Seriously, what jobs are going to be around in a hundred years? What is the

>purpose of work other than to keep the "economy" growing. At some point in

>the near future there really are going to be too many people and not enough

>jobs to go around, what will this mean to us? Is it a good thing? will

>people be villified for not working as is the norm at present? Are there

>better uses of our time and energy?

>The marketplace economy will have to come to an end at some point, so I

>would dearly like to hear ideas of where we go from there.....

>Rod

>on 1/4/02 12:15 am, David Buchanan at DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org wrote:

> > If I were the king of the world, I'll tell you what I'd do.

> >

> > Or rather, if I were to propose an amendment to the constitution, he's what

> > I'd do. I'd propose something like this...

> >

> > The ownership of one's own time and energy being the ultimate property

> > right, no employee shall be deprived of just compensation. Since poverty is

> > the enemy of life, liberty and happiness and is inconsistent with both human

> > rights and human dignity, no full-time employee shall be deprived of a

> > living wage.

> >

> > Huh? You like it? Would you vote for it? Would you shout it down in the name

> > of practicality? Can you guess who'd use it to red-bait the author?

> >

> > DMB

> >

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