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Hey Angus
Your post made my day.
ANGUS: Lila is about a one night stand in the sense it is
about the integration of Phaedrus' anima with himself
ERIN: I still don't understand what the one night has to do with anything.
Don't you think this could of happened with a 7 month relationship with Lila?
Why put an emphasis on how much time they had together?
I think it has to do with your whore-IDEAL idea but you don't need it.
The irrational whore aspects of Lila are important but the one night isn't in
my opinion. I completely agree that Pirsig was struggling with it being okay
to be an irrational whore though. But again who cares how many nights.
The cool part about stories and your "show" idea is that we can see Pirsig's
struggle with anima and Lila's struggle with the animus both.
ANGUS: "this metaphysics... was a
>CONNECTING LINK to a PART of THEMSELVES which had
>always been suppressed by cultural norms and which
>needed opening up."
ERIN: I agree. From what I see Wilber puts everybody on a different spiral
but a recognition of a "spiral" above or below you is a recognition of part of
yourself.
ANGUS: These four constitute a
>half immanent (inorganic/biology) and half
>transcendent (social/intellect) quaternity, an
>archetype which I have called the marriage quaternio.
>The marriage quaternio provides a schema (Erin you
>there?) not only for the self but also for the
>structure of primitive society
ERIN: I'm here. I'm not sure if I get this I need to think more about it but
it sounds good. marriage archetype interesting...
I liked your incorporation of the doll. I think the interaction of Lila,
Pirsig, and the doll is the best and most revealing part of the whole story.
and I get to go swimming again (Wise
>Old Man). "
ANGUS: The question of Lila dissolves
>away and so the "one night stand" question dissolves
>with it. He's integrated his self. Of course, Pirsig
>himself can't see it because the BOOK is a projection.
>You can't see your own projections. That is the
>otherness of other. So the fact that Pirsig himself
>seems to ignore the story FITS my theory.
ERIN: can you explain this
Erin
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