RE: MD Who has moral authority?

From: Angus Guschwan (arshilegorky@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Apr 10 2002 - 04:47:08 BST


Erin,

The "one night stand" thing is probably my projection.
I struggle with my anima too! So I'll back off, I just
mean it in a metaphoric sense, so "whore" or whatever
works too. That's why I dislike the Catholic church in
this age of transference: we transfer our images of
sexuality to a virgin!!! The pop star Madonna should
start her own religion, though I hear Venus Williams
and Tiger Woods might beat her too it. Venus as Anima!
Tiger as Animus! Too cool.

> ANGUS: The question of Lila dissolves
> >away and so the "one night stand" question
> dissolves
> >with it. He's integrated his self. Of course,
> Pirsig
> >himself can't see it because the BOOK is a
> projection.
> >You can't see your own projections. That is the
> >otherness of other. So the fact that Pirsig himself
> >seems to ignore the story FITS my theory.
This is just a reply to people who cite Pirsig and his
silence on the story of LILA. They say Pirsig stresses
the metaphysics so that should be a guide as to how to
read Lila. Well, I have a mind of my own, and I say on
with my own hermeneutical experience of the story!
If Pirsig is an artist then he is projecting stuff
into his work that even he does not know. From Jung
and used by the Forum: there are the things you know,
the things you don't know, BUT what about the things
you don't know you don't know? Companies like the
Forum use this Jungian insight to "expose" people to
their own other. Pirsig just does it with a book. That
is the moral of Lila: coming to terms with the parts
of you that you don't have control, that are other,
that you don't know you don't know. So it makes sense
that Pirsig is not aware of his ANIMA struggle in
LILA. Lila is MAYA, illusion, so if you ask Pirsig
about it, he CAN'T answer because it's part of his DQ.
He CAN however talk about metaphysics which is sq and
SOMEHOW people try to justify the MOQ emphasis based
on Pirsig's avoidance of the story. But I think that
is misguided by USING the MOQ against them: the DQ is
the revelation of the individual and as such the
individual can't talk about the DQ, he can just show
it.

Once you've integrated your ANIMA, like the director
in Fellini's 81/2 or Pirsig's Phaedrus, Lila (anima)
is no longer important, not an issue. It disappears
and he sees the world without Maya, without illusion,
and it is good, as he finds and he is not heading
south anymore looking for "lila". Kind of like Wizard
of Oz, but that is probably about a woman and her
animus. But that's a different subject, though as a
woman you might look at it that way. Your thoughts on
the ANIMUS in Wizard of Oz? Bottom line: the story is
the way to talk about DQ.

Angus

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