This discussion has become the most interesting one for all of members in MOQ .It is an important case,every one talks about it and every one wants to give his own lecture about it.SO NICE;this is the common way of life in the world.GIVING LECTURE .While we are discussing ,they are being killed,there is a great fire of war,there are a pile of corpses and refugees;but this is the way of people.they like to discuss,in every major.
I was surprised by reading some of these speeches.I dont know how the people can exchange bad and good in some ways that nobody doubts in it.It is the manner of life in this era.You are all educated but you can not see bad,nor can see good .this is the advantage of the education in this era.MIXING Good and Bad and taking the detemining power away.today world had been succeeded in mixing good and bad for people.
I really can not understand how you can not see the opression on that land.how you can accept all beasty behavior and say:"Arabs must go away of their own land because their leaders said to them years ago?" Will you,yourself, leave your own country and house and property if your leaders say?
Palestinians have lost their children ,their houses and their most precious things ;how you can accept them to leave their land and take refuge in the other lands?
I guess you are American.If real Americans(red skins) want to come back and get the US from you ,what will you do?(and the funny thing is that you getting the US by force.).I just know that the journals and info systems could convert liers to truth and vice versa.the great trajedy,killing the minds and the strenght of thinking by newspapers and TV and Internet.
The oppression is always the oppression.No body can give reason for it.I am not Anti_jews,but I am not a lier.we need a Man who put every thing in its own place,The Man whom was desired by that Tired German philosopher.
Nargess.
a.elob1@aol.com wrote: Braisher replies brashly, repeating the anti-Isreal epithets-they oppress,
they kill innocents, they act as bullys against the weak, the poor mistreated
refugees. Unfortunately, he neglects history as do all the whiners who cry
out for mercy on behalf of those who would send out their children to commit
suicide in a group of the "enemy."
A few jews gathered in British Palestine where they were promised by the
British Empire that they would be able to have a place for the survivors of
the Holocaust to form a member of the world community. That the Arabs spat on
that promise and desire is clear. In numerous wars they have tried to destroy
Israel. They regularly deny the right of the country to exist. Arab hatred
and opposition continues on a daily basis. The arab strategy has simply
evolved over the last couple of decades from military attempts to kill all
the jews or drown the ones they don't kill in the Mediterranean, into support
for the "Palestinians." Now they whine about the refusal of the Israelis to
allow the Palestinians, most of whom now are of an age to have never lived in
the area that is now Israel, to "return" to live in Israel. Supposedly they
were run out by the jews who took their lands and homes. Supposedly the
"Palestinians were removed from their land to allow the jews to form their
nation. The story that is never revealed in the press is that "Palestinians"
were told to leave their homes, not by the jews but by the leaders of the
Arab world who warned the "Palestinians" that the jews would kill them and
steal their property. Oddly, enough some "Palestinians" did stay and have
lived in Israel successfully for many years. Rather they were manipulated by
the leaders of the Arab world to become refugees and pawns in the games
played by the implacable kings and sheiks of the desert fiefdoms. Were any of
the displaced offered refuge in any arab country, Jordan, Syria, Lebonan,
anywhere? No, they were refused succor by their brothers because their
brothers knew a good political pawn when they had invented one.
Now that the "Palestinians" have been taught to hate just as their
brothers contrived for them to do. Now that they hate their lack of homeland
status just as their arab "brothers" knew they would when the "brothers"
contrived to keep them on the outside of all the countries of the world. (
Early on in the history of Israel, Ethiopian jews were brought home from
Ethiopia to Israel because Israel had been founded as a land for all jews.)
"Palestinians were never invited to become brothers in Jordan. Palestinians
were never allowed to go to any arab country where they could live a peaceful
productive life. Rather they were pushed up against Israel's borders in order
to create tension and violence to keep the hatred alive. And my, oh my, have
they succeeded!
Palestinians have been manipulated into becoming the kind of people who
send their children out with dynamite taped to thier stomachs to kill the
jews. Mothers lovingly pat their ten year old sons on the head as he leaves
to walk into a store, a cafe, a military platoon or some other grouping of
jews and kill him or her self for "the cause."
So the Israelis lash back to break the backs of the armorers of the
children. Are they doing any thing more than they have done numerous other
times when an arab army attacked with the goal of pushing the jews into the
sea. They fight to same war that has gone on every day since 1948. And just
as in every other conflict when the Israeli army triumphs and is on the verge
of solving the problem with any given group, the arabs mass their whiners to
cry for help from the nasty jews who are hurting them.
Sorry Charlie. When the arabs in their never ending, never ending, yes,
never ending hate driven effort to destroy Israel continue their despicable
tactics, they must be ready to take their medicine when it comes to them.
There can be no hysterical sympathy for the deaths of gunmen who send out
children to kill.
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