Dear Nargess,
Roger has pointed out to me that in his original posting, he did not use the
term 'muslim textbooks' -- only 'textbooks.' So he was not referring to the
Qur'an. I understand that he took his Test Questions seriously, so I
attempted to review them in an email posted last night. I would be
interested in your opinion about them. Please do not worry about your
English: I only wish that I spoke your mother language as well as you do
English.
Best regards,
Lawry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of nargess sabeti
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 4:56 AM
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Subject: RE: MD Middle East Bias -- A Test
Dear Lawry,
Thanks for your help.I think it is one of the problems of language.My
mother tongue is not English
and it causes some difficulties to grasp some of the mains.Anyway I thank
you.
Nargess.
Lawrence DeBivort <debivort@umd5.umd.edu> wrote:
Greetings, Nargess,
Rest assured: in none of its parts does the Quran state or imply that
'other religious groups are evil and must be killed'. This is just another
of Roger's flights of fancy when it comes to Islam, the Middle East, and
Palestinians and Israelis. My guess is that he was amusing himself through
provocation, because a couple of days later, he actually posted something on
a Palestinian/Israeli solution that was fairly thoughtful, incongruent with
his 'test questions', and offered a step in the right direction.
Isn't there something in the Quran about being patient and teaching the
ignorant?
Lawry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of nargess sabeti
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 6:43 AM
To: moq_discuss@moq.org
Subject: Re: MD Middle East Bias -- A Test
dear Rog ,
Please tell me where of the muslims' texbook it was said that "an
other religious groups are evil and they must be killed"?
It is very important because I have read Holy Qoran and I am certain
that it was not saidthere.Please determine the place of it and if you have
not read that ,please search and be certain about the truth.
Nargess.
RISKYBIZ9@aol.com wrote:
To: Everyone
From: Rog
Rod, Gav, Rasheed and others are dismissing views that contradict
their own
as products of brainwashing, biased media, Orwellian distortion,
etc. At
first I thought they were just adopting one of David's little
social-level,
rhetorical tricks of winning the argument by undermining their
opponents'
credibility. But on further thought, how can I be sure that they
aren't
right? I am no Middle East expert. Perhaps I am making a decision
based upon
incorrect and biased facts. So, to test this, I thought I should lay
out the
supposed facts that I am acting upon, giving them a chance to let me
know
where they disagree.
To accomplish this, I wrote up a little test that shows what I
believe to be
the case. I ask questions like in high school and then offer a
believed
correct and an incorrect answer. In every case, the ! ! answer in
**'s is the
one I BELIEVE is true. If I am wrong, please help me see where.
1. Which people cheered on the streets on 9/11?
a) Israelies
b) *Palestinians*
2. Who, in 2000, refused an offer to give the Palestinians 97% of
the west
bank -- in a contiguous area -- shared control of Jerusalem, a
capitol in
Jerusalem, and the right for Palestinians refugees everywhere to
return to
the new homeland?
a) *Arafat*
b) Barak
3. True or false -- Palestine was a British mandate given to Jews
and
Palestinian Arabs after WWI from the remnants of the Turkish Empire?
a) *true*
b) false
4. 80% of Palestinian land is in which country?
a) *Jordan*
b) Israel
5. Prior to Israeli occupation, the West Bank and Gaza Strip were
controlled
by..
a) The free state of Palestine
b) *Jordan and Egypt*
6. Israel occupied these two areas because...
a) They attacked peaceful arab neighbors in a land ! gr! ab
b) *They captured it in a battle while defending th! emse! lves from
attempted
arab annihilation*
7. Which people have textbooks teaching their children that another
religious
group is evil and must be killed?
a) Israelis
b) *Palestinians*
8. Whose government-run newspaper ran a headline praising Adolph
Eichman with
"The Honor of Killing 6 Million" people?
a) America's
b) *Saudi Arabia's*
9. Which side of the struggle pays $25 to $50K to the families of
suicide
bombers that kill mothers and children?
a) Jews
b) *Arabs*
10. A representative of which country boasted that the final
solution to the
middle east problem was in getting nuclear weapons?
a) Israel
b) *Iran*
11. Whose covenants of 1968 specifically state that "the
establishment of
Israel is fundamentally null and void" and that it "is a national
duty....to
purge the Zionist presence."?
a) *Palestine's*
b) France's
12. Whose geography maps in school don't show Israel?
a! ) *Pal! estinians'*
b) Turkey's
13. Palestinians are denied employment, healthcare and government
services
in...
a) Israeli occupied territories
b) *Lebanon*
14. Who ethnically cleansed (deported) hundreds of thousands of
Palestinians
about a decade ago?
a) *Kuwait*
b) Israel
15. Who provides sanctuary and support for some of the most wanted
terrorists
and suicide bombers and also celebrates murderous martyrdom?
a) Clinton
b) *Arafat*
Please correct my test above, and help me become aware of my
indoctrination.
I can't progress until I learn.
Rog
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