someone needed to start this thread:
sam:
> I don't agree that "human rights" is equivalent to the intellectual level
of
> the MoQ, but as I said in the original post, "let's call it the doctrine
of
> human rights, although in a separate post, if I have time, I'd like to
> challenge that". I think that there are richer formulations, incorporating
> the MoQ, that could be - and indeed, need to be - developed to support
those
> high quality moral outcomes (of respect for the person, banning of torture
> etc). Hopefully sometime soon I'll be able to offer some more substantive
> thoughts.
Elliot:
I believe pirsig says that human rights are not the equivilant to the
intellectual level, but the struggle between the social and intellectual.
Thus it is a compomise, a consession made by the social level to prevent
the Intellectual level from reducing it to the bare essentials. The term
"right" illustrates that inherent in "human rights" is society first, then
individuals later if there is room. So please, sam, offer your substantial
thoughts and lets get this topic goin'. I have some thoughts as well, as
im sure many others do.
Elliot
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