Hi Eliott:
> Platt stated it nicely:
> > "The world is full of suffering. I can make an effort here, patch up
> > something there, but the impact is minimal. The mystic alternative seems
> > selfish at first. Attend to my own salvation. Yet without this I labour
> > in vain, since my action flows from judgment that is bound up with my
> > egoic development, and ultimately flows from childhood trauma and my
> > bondage to patterns established then. Only liberation within can free me
> > to act morally in the world."
Correction. That was John Beasley, not me. I agree to the extent one
should first attend to his own "salvation" before trying to change the
world. In my terms, I translate that to "mind your own business." I don't
agree with the Freudian "childhood trauma" viewpoint. Freud's Ego
and Superego battles with the childish Id as the cause of adult
psychological problems has been largely proven false by the discovery
of biological base of mental illness. Freud and has acolytes have
created much social-level mischief by making youth a symbol of
victimization and thus sanctioning rebellion and radical change.
> Elliot:
> Adhering to a complex static pattern of morality is destined for failure.
> Even pirsig's evolutionary morality is only a guide for those who cannot
> percieve clearly yet, but if it pursuades people to follow it rather than
> DQ, than it is a failure. A more complicated system may often lead to more
> actions that happen to be moral, but if the individual acts that way
> because he read so and not because he feels it deep down inside (from
> experience with DQ), then his actions are in vain.
IMO Wilber offers little in terms of a practical moral guide. In fact, I've
read most of Wilber's work and have yet to understand how he views
morality other than the greater the depth, the more moral. I think he is
a vegetarian because "carrots don't scream." And he is strictly a
subject-object man, dividing the world into Left (subjective) and Right
(objective). In any case, his view of the world is a far cry from Pirsig's
position that morals are "the whole thing."
Platt
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