--- skutvik@online.no wrote:
> On 5 May 2002 at 9:48, Gary Jaron wrote:
>
> > > Warmly welcome Gary.
> I am impressed by your essay - would have been
> awe-struck had it
> been presented ten years ago - but why is it that
> you ignore LILA where
> the full-fledged Metaphysics of Quality is to be
> found? ZAMM is a
> wonderful book and shows how Phaedrus/Pirsig came to
> conceive of
> the the Quality Idea and the labours of its birth,
> but he says in LILA that
> he made many false starts before hitting on the
> Dynamic/Static divide
> and that the Romantic/Classic was one such.
Here is my response:
Actually I will get around to LILA and the MoQ that is
presented there. I don't see ZMM as a false start or
that Romantic - Classic Quality is inaccurate. I view
the Romantic (pre-intelluctual/pre-verbal) and the
Classic (intellectual/verbal) as what is going on for
each invidual that is a member of the collective
Social level that is spoken of in LILA. Which is why
Wilber & Koestler are so important. EVERYTHING IS A
HOLON! Everything therefore has 6 attributes
Internal, external , individual/wholes [this is where
ZMM comes in], collective/parts [This is where LILA
addresses] and dynamic, Static [Again from LILA].
So, do not discount ZMM & Classic-Romantic. If you do
you are losing an important aspect of the nature of
individual humans encounter with Quality. Pirsig when
he wrote LILA was not discarding ZMM but adding a new
layer.
Gary Jaron "People shape, and are shaped by, ideas."
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