Dear David B.,
You wrote 18/5 12:39 -0600:
'It seems to me that the MOQ's distinction between the social and
intellectual levels is the most helpful insight into the problem [of Israel
and the Palestinians], if not the solution. ... The MOQ [associates] extreme
nationalism, fundamentalism and other right-wing ideologies with the social
level while associating democracy and human rights with the intellectual
level. And I think recent history clearly demonstrates that when a culture
or a nation has its back against the wall it regresses back to the social
level'
We already found out that we disagree on the interpretation of the 'social'
and 'intellectual' levels. I associate all ideological conflict (and the
ideas that conflict) primarily with the intellectual level, as they are
primarily conscious value conflicts.
Quoting Pirsig (from a note on page 38 of 'Lila's child') a bit off context
these are 'intellectual conflicts in which one side clings to an
intellectual justification of existing social patterns and the other side
intellectually opposes the existing social patterns.'
I do agree however with you when you continue with:
'I think what the MOQ says about this specific problem is that a solution on
the social level is quite impossible. It can only be solved at the
intellectual level. Two cultures trying to occupy the same space at the
space time is unworkable without tons of help from the intellectual level.'
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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