Hey peter,
I said
> > Also, mysticism is
> > concerned primarily with symbols and our understanding of the world as
> > symbolic, as "only a description".
>and peter said:
>Isn't this exactly what mysticism is attempting to avoid? An experience
>that is difficult
>to explain because the symbols we have can't capture the experience. The
>map isn't
>the terrain. Mysticism (quality?) is that which is before intellect or
>society...it is what
>shapes intellect or society after we attempt to understand it. I think.
>Maybe. ;)
Elliot:
No, mysticism avoids mistaking the symbols for reality. This is done by
fully realizing that the world of samsara, of arising and ceasing is only a
description and what are arisising and ceasing are only symbols, not
reality. To go beyond symbolic understanding one must first understand what
the symbols are on a much more fundemental level than those who merely want
to manipulate them. to be interested in a world transendant of symbols, one
must be interested in the world of symbols as symbols first.
Elliot
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