Re: MD language-derived

From: elliot hallmark (onoffononoffon@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 03 2002 - 01:42:51 BST


Gary, I'm glad someone here knows what i've been talking about. I agree
entirely. and you say it more simply than I. cheers.

>Gary's response: Hmm. I had always thought that the Intelectual stable
>pattern level, the 4th level was internal to a indididual human being and
>his/her experience of life & of understanding life. It is all the stuff
>and
>events that were commonly associated with the word "mind". Pirsig in
>Lila's
>Child footnote 24 says as much. This leaves the 3rd level, the Social l
>stable patterns as interaction & communication between two or more human
>beings. The Social Level is all about the products of individual humans
>acting together, or contributing to human culture, or humans simply
>interacting on a human level. 4th is internal & individual and 3rd was
>both
>external and collective. We are just stuck with poor choices, in my
>opinion, by Pirsig in calling the 3rd level Social and the 4th level
>Intelectual. They are clumsy words.
>
>Giving you your eyes back,
>Gary

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