Hi Squonk,
your address to me was this:
>Hi Elliot,
>Dreaming appears to be where all possibilities exist at once in a
>pre-patterned unity?
>Wakefulness appears to be more selective?
>I wonder if we are all Mystics when asleep.....
>
>All the best,
>Squonk.
Elliot:
I have to admit i dont entirely understand what you mean: "all possibilities
exist at once in a pre-patterned unity". This sounds to me like a marvelous
description of the world of waking (if quantum mechanics are incorporated).
We are more selective in waking i believe, because we believe much more in
waking then we do in dreaming, the cleveland harbor effect. and as for our
mystic nature, I'd like to say that we are all mystics all the time, even if
we dont admit it and arent very good at it (who was it that said as humans
we are philosophers, we get to decide if we'll be good ones or bad, i think
the term mystic also applies here, as the realization of Qulaity as
exsistance shows us). But, our understanding in dreaming is that of an
infant. Thus we would be closer to original enlightenment yet we have
already began the path of ignorance and there is no turning back. Our
distance from enlightenment in dreaming is probably what you meant by your
first line (and by the last as well).
Also, you make it sound like it is dreaming that is wierd and wakefulness
that is more selective. I dont think these are properties of "other worlds
around us" but in our view of experience, we just arent as good at dreaming.
Everyone in this forum is probably at a different point in their "dreaming
education". My dreams are very garbled, unclear and fall away very easily,
i am not very good at all at it. Some others may be consious that they are
dreaming while they are doing it, have volition and be able to remember
their dreams with varying accuracy.
According to castaneda, the dream world is the SAME as the waking one. When
we achieve volition to a great degree in dreams, we may act in or atleast
percieve this world. Taking a nap durring the day, the setting of our
dreams (presumably someplace we already know) would be in daylight also.
Its in the book, so its gotta be true (kidding of course).
Elliot
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