Gary,
I couldn't have put it better.
thanks,
André
--- Gary Jaron <gershomdreamer@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi
all,
> ">From Andre: " At present, ignoring any ritual
> baggage, I think MoQ
> > and Taoism are philosophically singing from the
> same
> > song sheet. "
> A quick 2 bits from Gary: I agree. Tao=Quality.
> Pirsig is a Classicist
> interpreting the Tao. Lao Tsu is a Romantic
> interpreting Quality.
>
> Gary
>
>
> > Hi Elliot and all,
> >
> > Just more feelings ...
> >
> > At present, ignoring any ritual baggage, I think
> MoQ
> > and Taoism are philosophically singing from the
> same
> > song sheet. I like Tao because of its simplicity
> and
> > lacks "levels". The to-me arbitrary MoQ levels
> > (Intellect, Biology etc) seem to provide a means
> for
> > chatting about an a priori undifferentiated
> reality,
> > and trying to make sense of the world.
> >
> > The essential nature of Quality, Tao and Zen's
> "the
> > void" etc is that they cannot be intellectualised
> > because they are word/idea/notion/concept etc
> > transcendent.
> >
> > The MoQ introduces "Biology, Intellect, Molecules
> and
> > Chaos" as arbitrary objects born out of so-called
> > classical "truth". Yes ... these terms make
> > philosophical discussion possible, and yet at the
> same
> > time ... to me at least, empty. There is no
> biology,
> > intellect, nor molecules which are real ... they
> are
> > emphemeral thoughts of no permanence nor
> substance.
> >
> > André
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Elliot:
> > > Well, Daoism has lots of practices and non-MoQ
> > > beliefs (like eating murcury
> > > sulfide to gain immortality). Taoism has some
> great
> > > aspects (mysticism) but
> > > some dated ones also. What is great about the
> MoQ
> > > and what is great about
> > > daoism may be the same thing (mystical
> > > understanding), but the two are not
> > > the same. Addition is too simple for this.
> > >
> > > the great parts of chritianity, buddhism, native
> > > american religions and post
> > > modernism align with the MoQ also, but they are
> not
> > > the MoQ plus or minus
> > > something.
> > >
> > > Elliot
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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