Hi all,
">From Andre: " At present, ignoring any ritual baggage, I think MoQ
> and Taoism are philosophically singing from the same
> song sheet. "
A quick 2 bits from Gary: I agree. Tao=Quality. Pirsig is a Classicist
interpreting the Tao. Lao Tsu is a Romantic interpreting Quality.
Gary
> Hi Elliot and all,
>
> Just more feelings ...
>
> At present, ignoring any ritual baggage, I think MoQ
> and Taoism are philosophically singing from the same
> song sheet. I like Tao because of its simplicity and
> lacks "levels". The to-me arbitrary MoQ levels
> (Intellect, Biology etc) seem to provide a means for
> chatting about an a priori undifferentiated reality,
> and trying to make sense of the world.
>
> The essential nature of Quality, Tao and Zen's "the
> void" etc is that they cannot be intellectualised
> because they are word/idea/notion/concept etc
> transcendent.
>
> The MoQ introduces "Biology, Intellect, Molecules and
> Chaos" as arbitrary objects born out of so-called
> classical "truth". Yes ... these terms make
> philosophical discussion possible, and yet at the same
> time ... to me at least, empty. There is no biology,
> intellect, nor molecules which are real ... they are
> emphemeral thoughts of no permanence nor substance.
>
> André
>
> >
> >
> > Elliot:
> > Well, Daoism has lots of practices and non-MoQ
> > beliefs (like eating murcury
> > sulfide to gain immortality). Taoism has some great
> > aspects (mysticism) but
> > some dated ones also. What is great about the MoQ
> > and what is great about
> > daoism may be the same thing (mystical
> > understanding), but the two are not
> > the same. Addition is too simple for this.
> >
> > the great parts of chritianity, buddhism, native
> > american religions and post
> > modernism align with the MoQ also, but they are not
> > the MoQ plus or minus
> > something.
> >
> > Elliot
> >
> >
> >
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