hey squonk,
you say:
>So, if SOM had been neccessary and good unintentionaly, you appear to be
>telling us that it has been pragmatic?
>If this is the case, why challenge it?
>It may well be that it should be challenged from a Human centred
>perspective,
Elliot:
one word: e v o l u t i o n .
It was once good, it was useful for survival, for building tools and
exploiting nature for the purposes of technological advancement. But, now,
or perhaps at some point in evolution, it is outgrown and transcended (the
MoQ includes and transcends SOM, not rejects it), it becomes a hinderance to
biology (through the destrcution of life for exploitation purposes), to
society by limiting language and concepts and therefore limits intellect and
thoughts. it isnt just humanocentric, it recognizes all value, not just
human values.
>but...
>
>If the MOQ is Human centred then i should agree.
>If however, as i suspect, the MOQ is Cosmic centred, then human values are
>not the be - all - and - end - all of the cosmos are they?
>For all we should like to think, SOM may lead to a new dynamic pattern of
>life which makes Humans a little redundant?
Human values are not the end all be all, they are the most evolved at this
point, they are the highest so far. Pirsig doesnt reject the value of
Gravity (inorganic value) or sex (biological), he sees value as a heirarchy
with intellectual value at the top, as including all the value below it and
adding to it.
so i say the MoQ is neither Human nor cosmic (Kosmic?) centered in the way i
think you mean because:
1. Human value is not considered to be the most fundemental nor basis of
Quality or the value of other levels and
2. the cosmos (chaos, the inorganic), as the fundemental basis of all
exsistance, does not posses the highest (most whole) most inclusive (most
important/significant) value.
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