Elliot:
The issue is ignoring -- which is an active process. Suffering comes from
ignoring what is.
val
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From: owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk
[mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk]On Behalf Of elliot hallmark
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 7:24 PM
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Subject: RE: MD What is SOM?
val:
>Spring comes and grass grows by itself.....and old ch'an/zen saying about
>enlightenment. Many have said that "effort" and "reasoning" only trap you
>on the path...
Elliot:
well, are you claiming then that everyone who cares nothing for
enlightenment and think very little are infact enlightened, or atleast on
the right path? effort is a pitfall if one has an idea of enlightenment and
pursues it as a goal, but giving up at every stumbling block is also not the
way (or the Way rather). the fool does not distinguish because he does not
know how, the sage does not because he knows better (or something like that,
the awakening of faith).
lets not confuse being ignorant with trancending thought or lazyness with
wu-wei (not doing). Im aware of how the path reveals its self, subtly, and
i try to not make attachments although we all fail to some degree. this is
how one may embrace paradoxes i believe, not by being ignorant or weak
minded but by being strong and through non-attachment.
the fool,
Elliot
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