Hi Patrick,
Thank you for the dialogue.
P:
"greater range of experience is almost synonymous with increased
quality": To this phrase I referred to in my reply to Wim. I believe
it's a MoQ assumption, and can't be argued from within the MoQ as being
true or not-true. What do you think?
ROG:
I think that it is self-consistent within the chosen metaphysical metaphor.
Furthermore, the metaphor chosen is itself a good one (in terms of
usefulness, consistency, etc)
P:
So, from the perspective of life, life is better than death. Again it
seems to me a tautological answer. But maybe that isn't bad.
ROG:
This is indeed OUR perspective. We are living. The perspective is
self-consistent, practical and easily understood. In other words, this
perspective is of high quality. Life does, in general, have more value than
death. It is more dynamic.
Do you agree?
> 3) Finally, one key complex experience or adaptation is that of
> establishing
> goals and purposes. Complex animals have developed this quality.
> Purpose is
> therefore not the cause of evolution, it is an emergent complex
> quality
> arising out of evolution.
P:
Hm... this is a very "scientific correct" answer. The crucial, debatable
word on which this argument relies on, however, is "emergent", to me
synonymous with the phrase "and then a miracle occurs...". It boils back
to a discussion in the MoQ some time ago, can't remember, however, under
what name (thread).
ROG:
Emergence is in no way synonymous with "and then a miracle occurs."
Emergence can actually be a simple concept. For example, PRESSURE is an
emergent property of containing multiple entities in a given area. ANT
COLONES exhibit emergent behavior out of large numbers of simple responses to
stimuli at the individual ant level. Taffic jam patterns are emergent
properties when there are too many cars on the road at one time. I would be
glad to fill in the blanks on evolution to share current ideas on how purpose
could have emerged.
Rog
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