RE: MD books for Pirsig

From: David Buchanan (DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org)
Date: Sat Oct 05 2002 - 21:37:31 BST


Scott and all:

Scott said:
My own take on all this with respect to "defining the intellectual
level" is that it doesn't fully exist yet. The closest we come is with
mathematics, where there is no object. Instead the thinking is the
mathematics -- there are no mathematical objects being thought about.
(This requires more detail, but another time). I might also add (with
respect to the question of feeling and intellect) is that now mostly
feeling is a matter of reaction. When the intellectual level come into
its own, then it carries its own feeling, that is feeling and thinking
merge -- again the closest I can guess at might be the aesthetic
pleasure of doing mathematics, though perhaps music is another case.

DMB says:
It looks like Owen Barfield does parallel Pirsig. Cool. I'd split hairs with
your take, however. The intellectual level isn't unborn, it is just very
young. Its learning to walk. Also, mathematics isn't the only field where
thoughts focus on non-objects. There are lots of disciplines where the main
work is thinking about ideas and analyzing other non-material realities,
such as philosophy or literary critiicism. Even when physicists are
examining objects, the scientific method proscribes a certain and careful
way of thinking about your perceptions of the object. In any case, thanks
for the scoop.

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